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« Reply #60: August 20, 2015, 01:43:27 PM »
It's better to err on the side of caution with that shoulder. Better to take it easy for a week or two by your own volition, than to be forced to sit out for a month or more. You may want to visit the doc, see if you can get referred to an imaging center so you know exactly what's going on in there, and what you should and shouldn't do. It's easy to feel invincible, until you don't.


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« Reply #61: August 20, 2015, 02:10:36 PM »
It's better to err on the side of caution with that shoulder. Better to take it easy for a week or two by your own volition, than to be forced to sit out for a month or more. You may want to visit the doc, see if you can get referred to an imaging center so you know exactly what's going on in there, and what you should and shouldn't do. It's easy to feel invincible, until you don't.

This.  If you can, I would get an x-ray or MRI if your insurance covers it, just to make sure you don't have a tear or anything significantly wrong with your shoulder.


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« Reply #62: August 21, 2015, 11:40:26 AM »
Today was leg day...

Start out with 10 minutes cardio and stretching - had a good pace going and did about a mile and a half on 3.5 incline.

Leg Extensions - 15x150, 12x180, 12x225 - worked 2 negatives in there on the end...
Leg Press - 12x270, 12x360, 14x475 - I went to failure on the presses - I need to push up more weight on this
Hack Squat - 12x240, 12x330, 12x420 - I could have gone deeper on the last 2 420s
Seated hamstring Curl - 12x195, 13x225 - Need to add more weight there - the 13 was pretty good...
Stiff Legged Deadlift - 12x225, 10x275 - My flipping grips failed at the end, not cool.  did 6 then 4.  I need some straps but I feel like my grips should be better at that low weight...
Calf Press (on hack squat machine) 14x520, R/P 10sec-15x520, R/P 10sec-9x520, R/P 10sec-8x520
Seated Calf Raise (used leg press) 12x475, 17x615 -

I need to find a seated calf raise hook up - unless there is an opinion that the hack and leg press are significantly different type exercises...  thoughts?


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« Reply #63: August 21, 2015, 03:38:55 PM »
Good Leg day Man!   Yeah dude, Get some straps.  They help alot in those situations...  And you can train forearms by themselves. .   What I do on Leg day, Is Legs , calves and forearms..  to give you an idea..
Rest up bro... Chest and bi's on Sunday.. Kill it..
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« Reply #64: August 21, 2015, 07:55:06 PM »
Thanks Mjg...  I may have a pair around here somewhere - in fact my wife just found them as I type this - she is some kind of wonderful!

Also - I was super stoked to see I got a gift pack from Tommy MUCH APPRECIATED!  I was just looking to get a better blender bottle and now I don't need to!  The kids will love the stickers - I will post them conspicuously at the gym if I can wrestle them out of their hot little hands...

Cardio tomorrow - I will hit abs and some forearms as well


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« Reply #65: August 22, 2015, 12:46:42 PM »
Cardio abs went great today - 10 minutes rowing 2700 meters then did some elliptical stair stepper thing for another 15 then followed up with 15 HIIT abs.   Threw in some forearm stuff - I need some better forearm building maneuvers.

Macros have been on point this week - adding more carbs at my first meal is great - seeing benefits from that throughout the day.

Supplement updates
G8 - greatest. sleep. ever.  I monitor my sleep every night and i have added a half hour to an hour of rested sleep since started this.   I say rested because the time in bed is the same but time sleeping has increased.

Pre33 - this stuff seems to work pretty good so far - the BA effect is intense with this stuff.   Not overly stimulated - nice focus - but it has only been a week.

VitaFreak - it's a multi -seems ok

Real food - this stuff is great - it tastes great - mixes good - serves a purpose.   Like it alot

Just got the erosion last night - contemplating grabbing a natty booster to run with it but concerned it may mask the results


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« Reply #66: August 22, 2015, 01:02:07 PM »
In regards to forearms...  I super set reverse curls with ez curl bar, With wrist curls..  For wrist curls I use a straight bar and lay my arms on a bench, Just slide them off enough so your hands are hanging off. 
Go for a full r.o.m.  , No half curls..lol..   
In a few months you will be walking around like Popeye. ..  All you need is 4 sets..
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« Reply #67: August 22, 2015, 01:57:05 PM »
Do these.  Easy and quick to make your own. Brutally effective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdW8NUCkzoc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9O_ayaMGLM

I have also been doing loaded carries this year and have noticed an increase in size and grip strength.
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« Reply #68: August 22, 2015, 03:44:53 PM »
In regards to forearms...  I super set reverse curls with ez curl bar, With wrist curls..  For wrist curls I use a straight bar and lay my arms on a bench, Just slide them off enough so your hands are hanging off. 
Go for a full r.o.m.  , No half curls..lol..   
In a few months you will be walking around like Popeye. ..  All you need is 4 sets..

I was doing the wrist curls with DBs but straight bar sounds good - do you use preacher curls for the reverse?


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« Reply #69: August 22, 2015, 03:49:43 PM »
Do these.  Easy and quick to make your own. Brutally effective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdW8NUCkzoc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9O_ayaMGLM

I have also been doing loaded carries this year and have noticed an increase in size and grip strength.

Hahaha - that guy called a 2x2 a square roller!   

That's awesome - I will make one of those this weekend - thanks for the tip!

You just use DBs for your weighted carries?


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« Reply #70: August 23, 2015, 02:12:43 PM »
Yes.  Using 85s right now.  Trap bar would work too.  Plus it won't be banging on your thighs.
"I don't have bad days.  I have good days and great days." - Lance Armstrong
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« Reply #71: August 23, 2015, 03:19:28 PM »
I think the actual bar for that is in the gym.  I will snap a picture of it but it looks like I could use it for weighted carries and shrugs.  I may even be able to use that bar for weighted calf raises.  I will send a pic of it tomorrow...



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« Reply #72: August 23, 2015, 03:48:39 PM »
So here is the decline bench set up that Mjg recommended - not sure it is declined enough - 3 plates.  Comments welcome..

Today was chest and bi's -

I started out with some cuff warm up - just taking a 25# DB and rotating my arm on a flat service a dozen times each arm two times - it felt really good - it hurt the left shoulder some but made things feel much better...

Decline Bench:  12x155, 12x185, 6.5x225 - no doubt I could have had 8 with a spotter - just didnt want to chance it falling on a hard push...

Incline BB press: 12x115, 7x165 - I swapped out the DB press with the BB press and the shoulder was much more happy.  I think that the bar may keep it more isolated than the DB did and that made it far less painful... 

Flat bench Flyes: 12x35, 14x45 - I went to failure and I was surprised at how many I could nail.  I was going to try 50s at first but I was worried about the shoulder - things went well on that...

5 minute "rest" - I went and hit the treadmill for 5 minutes and it helped me focus in and get a real good sweat...

DB concerntration Curls - 12x35, 8x45 - had to "spo"t 2 on the right and 3 on the left - not bad, really happy with the way it felt...

Straight Bar curl - 7x95 I didnt count #8 cause i was swinging it up - haha...

Finished off with a fat bar reverse curl drop set with wrist curls mixed in on the preacher bench - my forearms were on fire but I think that will help the grip improve!  Finally did some abs - alternative straight leg lifts, 4x50

Then I smoked the poo out of some chicken and ribs!  BAM


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« Reply #73: August 23, 2015, 06:08:12 PM »
Nice chest day !  On the declines... three plates work dude...  You can go to four if you want.  At the end of the day, It's what feels best to you that counts. 
Solid workout today...
In regards to the reverse curls, I do them standing, But you can do them on the preacher if you want..
Tomorrow is back day,  Kill It!
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« Reply #74: August 24, 2015, 02:54:41 PM »
DB Pullover - 12x60, 12x75, 10x100
Close grip lat pull down: 12x135, 9x180 - wanted to get 10 but only about 9.5 - up from 9.25 last week - I will probably bump this next week
One arm DB rows:  12x65, 10x85 - focused on keeping the elbow close to the body to really work the lats - body more of a 60 degree angle versus 90.  that was tough with the 85s. - bumping this some next week...
Wide grip Bent over BB rows: 12x155, 8x205  - replaced the wide grip seated row with a bent over row.  That wide grip was a challenge.  155 was harder than I thought it would be but I figured I would push the 205 and I am glad I did...
Barbell Deadlifts:  12x225, 7x295.  - supposed to be at 8-10 on the last set.  I got 7 and felt my form start to get a little questionable so I called it.  I used the wrist grips and that was a home run! 

See my question in the prohormone forum about erosion stack - any insight would be appreciated...

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