O yea i heard that you (VIRTUS) ran this stack and are quite knowledgeable at it thats why i asked for your advice. thanks.bro whats your history with a ph? at 24 it can't be much. not knocking at all. that is a very powerful stack that could lead to a horrible outcome for some one with little to no ph/ds history. at 24 start small bro seriously go with a pmag or hdrol cycle before tren/epi stack.
both these compounds are class three ph/ds. if i was you i would run the epi 20/30/30/40/50 and brdige to the tren at 90.
you have read alot on tunedsports.com i see as well. i would do clomid/torem for pct. gyno should not be to bad since epi can reverse it to a point. keep in mind that some estrogen is needed to build muscle so to kill it of with letro is some what counter productive imo. keep it on hand in case but don't jump on it just because.
now for the support supps i like that you have preloaded a cycle assist just remember to keep running it even through pct. you need to get a cortisol control for pct. around second week pct your body gets pretty stressed and releases cortisol which can cause some fat gain. in weeks three and four you might want to get isotori test booster to help with homostasis.
i know your going to do what ya want just thought i could help out. but please think about a different stack.
I did ACL tren for my first cycle (ya i know now that it wasnt optimal) and i did Myogenix spawn last summer which is 30mg tren and 8mg epi per capsule and i felt super human. It seems like my body responds good to tren (i.e no gyno, other sides) *knock on wood* so i thought i would stick to it, in retrospect i would have started with something milder like p-stanz or even halo.
I know what you are saying about the estrogen, the letro is just there if i have a flare up but yes the hopes is that the epi keeps it in check. plus i know that no estrogen can dry up the joints too.
as far as pct, why torem over nolva? i thought torem had the higher risk of sides? but then again i know that nolva can even irritate progestin induced gyno. right?
PCT (cont'd) Would the Purus lab recycle suffice in regards to the cort control etc? it is supposedly an all in one pct aid like p.c.t assist only it has better reviews. and if so would i take that day 1 and add a test booster like week 4-5?
About the bashing, i don't see it as bashing at all. I know you are trying to help and i appreciate that. much better to help then to have people just say "GO for it bro!" and they not give a poo what comes of you like the guy around my age i met through a friend that was trying to sell me a compound he called "Mild" and i go and find out it had superdrol... yea guy real mild.