I made the same dumba** mistake and took this stuff, although I was dumb enough to buy it. Your review is right on point

So did you actually use it?

Sorry for the poor elaboration. I used 17HD for 2 weeks to gauge how it affected my weight room performance. Squat, bench, clean only saw marginal increases over that two week period (20 pounds to 3 rep max on squat, moved up about 10 pounds per set on bench, and clean was good some days, bad or the same on others). I did see a spike in pull ups, but I just added pull ups as the "focus" exercise on back days about 3 weeks ago. I went from about 8 reps on my first set to about 15 over the 2 weeks. I also felt energized after taking it, but it was not unlike the effect of slamming an energy drink or taking a scoop of NO Xplode. I now use it at night if I have to pull an all nighter studying and definitely will not buy another bottle once this runs out (5 hour energy works just as well for those all nighters). I'm not huge on taking a lot of supplements and just experiment with different products on occasion.

worst review ever.. what are you trying say here ? that your friend pulling your leg, or you know how to copy paste.. what??

I understand what you're saying about this product and your general appraoch, I agree that many products do not work well. However, many products do in fact work well and I would just ask you do not shy away from the positive studies. As well, real results in the real world should also be considered.

As I'm reading the replies I see you do use some products and in fact used this product for two weeks. On average, you need to give most supplements about 6-8 weeks to really assess results, unless it's a energy type product which should work quickly. When you test again, how about a more controlled, 8 week approach?

@Martin - The purpose of this review was to shed light on the product and how the advertised compound works from a biochemical point of view. Information like this from a credible, third party source is virtually impossible to find, especially studies that test specific brands (as that article did). Most people who take supplements fall into very few categories. Theres the people in the "naive" category who take supplements because they believe what they've read on the labels and "know" that what they are taking will give them results. Theres the guys who try a bunch of different products, not really knowing what to believe but rather judging products based on results and recommendations from others who've tried the product, and theres the skeptics, which is the category I fall into. I personally would like to know what is in those magical little capsules before I put them into my body, which doesnt mean that I always have to have proof before I try something (as in the case with 17HD), but means that I would like to at least "look before I leap" so to speak. But think about it. You buy a bottle that says "17-halo-methyl-dianadrone". I'm a biochemistry and physiology major at the University of Minnesota and even I cant tell you what this compound looks like, or what it does. I just thought that the article would be useful for those of us who like to see actual scientific evidence that supports or refutes a manufacturers claims, because as I'm sure you are well aware, none of the claims for efficacy on any dietary supplement are regulated by any government body (FDA included). Hell, I remember walking into a GNC a couple months ago (to purchase vitamins) and seeing a powder claiming to alter your DNA and gene expression (which is ludicrous). As for my friend, I had never lifted with him before he started taking 17HD so I cannot say whether or not 17HD worked for him, but after pressing further, he did say that the whole 50 pounds in 2 weeks was an exaggeration, but that he did see some results. However, he does stack at least 5 different supplements at any time, so take that claim with a grain of salt.

I foolishly tried this too. There were no results outside of upset stomach

I just wanna mention that i used the 17HD Platinum version. I've never tired the original.

I liked this product, sometimes.

Personally my biggest issue with it was the constant breakouts.

However for the price, it wasn't too bad.

I'm going to try Ultimate Nutritions Testostogrow next. Friend recommended it.

Oh yeah. This compound is a steroid dude. It works and works well.