November 5, 2013
AKA Dump Igniter, surely to give you tingles.
Hey SR, another night shift, another review to kill some time so I don't pass out :)
Get ready, wall of text begins!
This time, I am reviewing Pump Igniter by Top Secret Nutrition, and I was very unsure about this product going in, as I got absolutely nothing from their other pre named Cardio Igniter.
Now given it's name, Pump Igniter, you would expect to get some pretty solid pumps off this product. Well, first lets dive into the ingredients to see what is cookin'...
-----Ingredient Profile Thoughts (8/10)-----
Per 1 Scoop serving (30 scoops per tub)
Vitamin B3 (as Niacin) 50 mg 250%
Vitamin B12 60 mcg 1000%
Magnesium 6 mg 2%
Sodium 24 mg 1%
Potassium 211 mg 6%
PUMP AND PERFORMANCE SYNTHESIS 3521 mg **
>HydroCarnâ„˘ (CarnosynÂ®, Beta Alanine HCL) >L-Citrulline
>Beet Root Extract (High in Nitrates)
>Niacin (Vitamin B3)
>Nelumbo Nucifera (seed) Containing Higenamine >AstraginÂ®
>BioperineÂ® (Piper Nigrum).
NOOTROPIC MOOD BOOSTING COMBINATION 2485 mg **
>Caffeine Anhydrous 300 mg
>Chlorophytum Borivillianum Extract
>Mucuna Pruriens Seed Extract 98% L-Dopa >Phyllanthus Emblica Fruit Extract >Methylcobalamin (Vitamin B12)
The first thing I want to raise a concern about is the possibility of many ingredients being sprinkled. If they do in fact list the ingredients in the proprietary blends in order of amounts (as most do), then you have 4 ingredients in one blend containing less than 50mg (below Niacin), and in the second blend, all the ingredients below caffeine would have less than 300mg, one being Agmatine.
So, the ingredients in this that would give the 'pump' are L-Citrulline, Beet Root Extract, Agmatine Sulfate, Higenamine, Niacin and possibly Rutaecarpine. I am guessing Agmatine is very under dosed, around 200 to 250mg per scoop, so that won't do much. Beet root I am not completely sold on, so not sure how much that will assist in the pump factor. L-Citrulline really kicks in at 5 to 6 grams, which you are not getting from this; I am guessing 1 to 1.5 grams per scoop. Rutaecarpine is an ingredient I am not quite familiar with, but there is possibility it can help with NO production, I read up that Arginine interferes with it so good that this doesn't have any. Finally, Higenamine has been show to increase vasolidation of the arteries in rat studies, but it also speeds up heart rate and is a beta-2 adrenergic receptor agonist. This ingredient is possibly unsafe for those with irregular heart beats, so if you have a heart murmur or something similar, you may want to avoid this ingredient. So, with saying all of that, this isn't looking too impressive on paper for the pump category.
Now this ingredient, Hydrocarn (Beta Alanine HCL), is the main reason I wanted to try this pre-workout (and the fact I got  30 serving tubs for $23). This is a new form of Beta-Alanine which I have never seen in a pre-workout before. I don't get tingles much anymore from regular Beta-Alanine so I wanted to see how this fares up for the lactic acid battle.
For focus and energy, you are getting TOO much caffeine per scoop in my opinion (300mg), makes it tough to take a double dosage if desired as that is a LOT of caffeine. You also get Choline Bitartrate, and I am guessing you are getting a very good dose of this, somewhere over 1 gram (if ordered by potency). Finally, you get a solid dose of Vitamin B12 to prepare you for exercise.
You get a couple ingredients to help uptake of everything which is nice, Astragin and Bioperine.
Many other ingredients, some which are very under dosed I am sure (Chlorophytum Borivillianum and Mucuna Pruriens being two), but there is one more I want to focus on, as I believe it is the culprit for some of the effects/sides I got as I will mention later. This is Picamilon, which is actually a combination of GABA and Niacin which crosses the blood-brain barrier and then is hydrolyzed into GABA and Niacin. The Niacin will also help with the Pump side of things, but it can also really, warm you up.
I give this am 8/10, as with my thorough overview of the formula, I have to say I am disappointed that many ingredients are most likely under dosed, and that there is just too much caffeine per scoop.
-----Taste (7.3/10 average)-----
I had all three flavours, as I grabbed a BOGO of each one... couldn't say no to 180 servings for $69, my thoughts was it if sucked, I'd use as my new coffee replacements over Neurocore.
Red Raspberry (8/10)
Cherry Limeade (7/10)
The flavours are not bad at all, they taste good enough to have day after day for a pre-workout, but not something I would want to drink just to have instead of juice throughout the day.
No problem here, stuff mixes up nice and easy with a blender ball. There is no creatine in this so don't have to worry about that.
-----Effectiveness (7/10 combined score)-----
Let's do what I did for my ANS Ritual review, I will rate it by what the company claims it will do on their website, and then add the totals up. TSN claims  different bullets, I will put Drive and Focus together into one bullet for  total, as they correlate to each other.
--Drive & Focus(2/2)--
This product definitely got me driven to hit the gym, and dialed in some pretty good focus. There was even one time when I was on my way to the gym, and some lady drove in front of me in a roundabout. Without hesitation I slammed on my breaks and my horn, she was literally inches away from my brand new car. I was so aware as to what was going on around me, so this gets huge bonus points for saving my new car from some ignorant driver. In the gym, I was always focus on the task at hand, lifting, and really contracting my muscles.
Now, I had some pretty good workouts, but nothing compared to what I had off of ANS Ritual in terms of strength. This could largely be due to the fact that this is a creatine free formula, and I was cycling off of all my creatine supplements while taking this. But this shows that you should definitely stack this with some sort of creatine if you want to get stronger lifts in while using this, because you will definitely have the energy and focus.
Now being this is called 'Pump Igniter', I was expecting some crazy pumps off of this. I did not get crazy muscle pumps from this, but I did have some pretty darn good vascularity from this. My veins really started popping out in my arms and forearms, really nice visual effect to turn heads. I would have really liked to experience some more muscle pumps from this though, but the vascularity was so nice that I will give this half points.
--Energy & Endurance(1.8/2)--
Now, I am fairly high stimulant tolerant, but this stuff definitely wakes me up! I felt a good energy take over me within minutes of taking this, and I would wake right up ready to go. My Endurance was pretty darn good too, but fell a little short due to the my full power not being there with it. This is definitely one to take when you are tired and need to wake up! This stuff also gave me consistent beta-alanine tingles, oddly enough I noticed it more with Red Raspberry flavour, and rarely Grape. Also, never got crashes off of this, surprisingly with the giant caffeine doses.
I will have to say, I did feel like my mood was uplifted when I took this. Overall it was generally pretty good, but there was the odd time when the stomach discomfort would kick in and I would feel a little blah. I will go over this and more in sides.
Final thing to note, I ended up finding a somewhat sweet spot between 1 scoop and up to a scoop and a half... I was actually afraid to try 2 scoops; the first pre-workout to ever scare me to try 2 scoops :s
Ok so first things first, about 75% of the time after I took this, I paid a visit to the throne. There were many times I had to drop off the Cosby kids at the pool. This never hindered it's effectiveness, but I had to make sure I had a facility nearby incase this came up. I attribute this to the large amount of caffeine as I find for myself, anytime I ingest a large amount of caffeine it ends up with my system getting a purge. Hence my title Dump Igniter :)
Secondly, HOLY NIACIN FLUSHES! Seriously, this stuff gave me insane niacin flushes, to the point where sometimes it looked like I was having an allergic reaction. I would get extremely warm, and VERY tingly (that Hydrocarn hits you good), and then just get blotches of red mainly on my neck, back, elbows and ears. I have taken many other products with the same amount or more of Niacin with nowhere near these effects (75mg in 1 and a half scoops), so I bet this has to do with the combination of the Niacin, Picamilon and Hydrocarn. Seeing as Picamilon is GABA and Niacin, you are getting more than 50mg of it per serving as mentioned on the label, just not sure how much. If this kind of thing bothers you, keep your dose low, or avoid this product. I don't mind it, and is nice when I am freezing at work in the cold datacenter :) It generally subsides within 30 minutes or so, and is not harmful from what I read online, it actually flushes out free radicals.
Lastly, I got the occasional stomach discomfort. My girlfriend tried this a few times and she also got the discomfort once. Just felt like my gut was wrenching, but more water would generally help this go away.
For what I got this stuff for, the value is incredible. BOGO at about $23, so 60 servings. Even at 1.5 scoops I was running 58 cents per workout. But, even at regular price this has some good value still, as I highly doubt you will need to go up to 2 full scoops. If you do, you are a machine my friend!
I do have to say, I like this stuff, and it definitely has it's use. While this would not make it in my top pre-workout choices, it is a solid choice if you need something that really wakes you up. I wish that this gave me a little more power, but in saying that, this would be awesome to stack with a creatine supplement and I do plan to do that in the future. I would've liked to see Creatine HCL in this instead of that Beet Root, but that's just me.
I would give this a thumbs up to advanced users to give it a shot for the experience; but if you are relatively new to supplements, I would advise trying some weaker choices first as this could really throw your system a curve ball... look at the sides I got and I am a very experience and well seasoned supplement user!
And yes, I still like this even with the sides I listed. The only one that really bothered me was the stomach discomfort - thankfully it only happened a couple times. The Niacin flush I actually enjoy, and visiting the throne was fine with me, lightens me up for the task ahead! hahaha.
Wall of text end.
- Good Vascularity
- Good Focus
- Wakes You Up
- Holy Tingles Batman
- Increased Energy
- Good Value
- Occasional Stomach Discomfort
- Dump Igniter
- May Be Too Strong For Some
- Lack Of Strength
- Some Ingredients Under Dosed
- Wish More Pumps