I will start off with background. I'm a former Trainer/football player,35 years old,Kinesiology&Endocrinology student.I have owned my own supplement company back in 1997,which means I tryed PH/PS.My basic body type is endomorph possible ecto traits(skinny cut legs). Goals for the product,lose fat&hardened muscles. Im already 298lb,22 inch arms(not flexed) I just wanted something to help keep the muscle while working on my belly. 1Alpha(2pill daily dosing),kept me pumped all day,strength was slightly lower,better definition,better cardio,gained 6lbs(mixed),loss 2% bf. Time for the bad,complete loss of sex drive,BACK PUMPS galore,basic DHT related joint&tendon pain. So I won't be taking this product again but,it worked as the bottle claims. Maybe alittle more water retention then I liked for my body type,but im sure meso's&ecto's alike will love the volume created by this product! Bare with my review,first one under this format.