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Gurrola11 Age: 18	Would it be less effective if taken alone? Should you stack this? I've read you should but a lot of fat burners use to many stims. Would this be less effective by itself? Also, I workout in the morning, so should i take one waking up AND after the workout or just wait for after the workout then 4 hrs later and before bed?
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It will still be effective. The reason most people stack this is because this has no stim. Most strong thermogenics such as OEP has stim. It would have sense to stack it with something more powerful if it wouldn't add any dmg to your body. As for your dosage, take 1 half an hour before your work out and the 2nd one half an hour before your lunch. Lean xtreme is a great product. You will not be disappointed. UNLESS, you get your diet and workout routine in check, you will be back to square one. Good luck	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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you could use it by its self but it is much more effective with a high stim fatburner. i would go with OEP and this after work out. this is a very low stim product so it does mix well with just about anything. just remember to access your tolerance before upping the dose and DO NOT USE A PWO AND A FAT BURNER IN THE A.M BEFORE YOUR WORKOUT!	hulkish1 Age: 28 Reputation: +975
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Thanks guys, I will look into that OEP, and yes my diet and routine are on check. I just can't seem to break a fat loss plateau no matter how much more intense my workouts get, I've also tried cutting back calories and carbs but i seem to stay the same so i wanted to give this a shot. I take Driven Sports Craze PWO in the A.M. so would these two not work together?	Gurrola11 Age: 18 Reputation: 0
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If you decided on taking OEP, it's best not to take it as a PWO because it will raise your heartbeat, resulting in a counterproductive result. If you are insisting on OEP, take it half an hour before lunch and the 2nd one at half an hour before the meal after lunch. Make sure to take the 2nd pill no less then 8 hours before bed time. 1 pill of OEP contains 100mg of caffeine. This much caffeine can ruin your rest.	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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bennsomes Age: 17	how to loose a bit of fat and gain fairely big amounts of muscle hey I am 18 I have a little bit of fat on my stomach I want to get rid of I am pretty built I do p90x, i just started to use con-crete creatine, and I would like to add this in to get more mass, but how would i loose the fat at the same time, how would I use this so that it does it. thank you.
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It doesnt make much sense to take a weight gainer if you are trying to lose weight. Just try some regular protein and some of moms cooking.	AS79 Age: 32 Reputation: +73
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Whole foods and whey isolate for a protein since you aren't really looking for the extra calories. Weight gainers are for people that want to gain weight...any kind of weight. If you want to lose fat and gain/maintain muscle you definitely don't need this product and it might be detrimental to your goals.	FlashSunday Age: 23 Reputation: +2069
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You want to get rid of fat yet you want to take a weight gainer? Might as well slam a DQ blizzard post workout. Stick with a solid whey protein and mix it with oats and some pb2,best mass gainer on the planet aside from chicken and steak	Mooselini Age: 22 Reputation: +547
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I remember When I was 17 but told ppl I was 18 and I took Hydroxycut and a weight gainer at the same time cuz I wanted to cut fat and bulk. Ahhh, good times ... good times	CamSTL Age: 24 Reputation: +622
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Cam you were a Badass 17 year old. I took a terrible mass stack from gnc and then the ripped stack right after. Looking back its humorous, but back then it was a lot of money.	FlashSunday Age: 23 Reputation: +2069
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Yeah Flash. I blew threw alot of money...especially on Hy-cut alone Bennsomes..Im jokin w ya man. Drop the mutant mass and focus on your diet eating whole foods and stick with the P90x. Over time you will lose that stomach, but you must realize that fat around the stomach for men is a common thing. Men are more likely to get that apple shaped vs women who get that pear shaped. And that fat around the stomach is usually last to go. Diet and exercise hard but get rest too. And when u are happy with where you're at then try to bulk up. But dont do both at the same time	CamSTL Age: 24 Reputation: +622
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It is all about your calorie consumption. If you want to loose fat, you have to be in a calorie deficit. Weight gainers are there for those that want to add in more calories when they don't have time to cook or prepare a meal. It is more for convenience. In your case, you don't need a weight gainer. Get a whey protein isolate and drink it post work out instead. Good to see you have your creatine down. Although expensive, con-cret is a good and reliable product. May i suggest green mag for the next creatine. Cheap and effective.	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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mateoman Age: 19

A-HD as part of an OTC PCT stack? hi guys im new here on the forum and i am just finishing up my first ph cycle of p-stanz at 150 mg for 6 weeks. most places that i have been to say that stand alone and at this dosage it only requires an otc pct and i wanted to know if a-hd would be a good one to go with. i am also looking to add 6 bromo to this and if you guys suggest anything else please let me know thanks

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I didn't really understand your question. I'll just answer according to what i can get out of it. No matter what ph you use, you will need a SERM and a PCT assist, cycle assist, along with 1 or 2 test boosters. 1 test booster is not a good idea to use as a stand alone product for your Post cycle. Please do more research on this as it will be very harmful to your body if did it unappropriatly. Good luck	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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Omg you are 19 years old and you used a ph?? It's against the forum policy to give any advise to anyone that's under 21 about ph. Please see a doctor after your cycle to make sure you didn't do any permanent dmg to your body.	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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Um um um um ummmmmm. I'm telling you helped him....	thinisin Age: 19 Reputation: +236
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ok i know im 19 and sorry if its against the rules but im just looking for a little help. ive done plenty of research and the ph i am taking is one of the mildest compounds available, it is non methylated and non aromatizing. everywhere i have been says an otc pct should suffice. i am not going to do only one test boost i am just asking if this one would be good to add to a stack and if there are any recommendations for other products to add to the stack. i know serms can sometimes have negative sides of their own and i would like to avoid that if possible so sticking to an otc stack would be ideal for me. if you read anywhere it will tell you that the ph i am taking and at the very low dose i am taking it does not require a serm. tunedsports which i think is pretty reliable is one of these	mateoman Age: 19 Reputation: -1
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Okay i understand that you are curious and maybe u got into some peer pressure to try out ph. But listen to my advise and visit the doctor. A lot of people had screw up their body because of this and some can't even get hard anymore. I'm sure you don't want that.	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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ok base frenzy i didnt get on this forum to get lectured. i did not get peer pressured into anything and i dont really like your tone of condescendence. im not a f***ing idiot and i was just looking for some advice from some people who have a little more experience than i do. can you stop the lecturing and someone who knows just give me a straight answer. im not looking for an anti steroid speech so save it basefrenzyy	mateoman Age: 19 Reputation: -1
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And here i thought i was spoon feeding you in the beginning before i thought u are under 21. Alright up to you. I will stop replying here and let the others help you.	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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It's against site policy to help anyone under 21 regarding questions related to steroids. You don't have a proper PCT planned out and could have easily already caused major damage to your endocrine system. This is not a lecture. GO TO YOUR DOCTOR. Tell him/her everything you took for how long and at how much.	AlphandOmega Age: 20 Reputation: +656
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mateoman chill out, and do not curse or circumvent the cursing censor in anyway. I am sorry you have to be 21 for us to give you advice on prohormones. The rules are there for a reason, even if we dont agree with them. But, here is a solution to your dilemma. Why don't you ask a question about test boosters, like A-HD, versus other ones just to compare what people think are the most effective testboosting stacks. That question is not against the rules.	Virtus Age: 30 Reputation: +1301
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after lashing out like that, you deserve all the damage you have done to your body	Clipper83 Age: 22 Reputation: +27
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Ya better hurry up with whatever you decide if you are "just finishing up" that is half the reason a 19 year ok shouldn't be running any PHs this was poor planning on our part and you need to be doing some express shipping..	Tsoiseth34 Age: 24 Reputation: +201
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Here is your answer........If you are having to ask about different test boosters for PCT (not having a proper pct lined up before you begin your cycle) and do not have a SERM, you are not ready for a PH. Regardless of your age, that in itself shows your immaturity.	gabem10 Age: 30 Reputation: +3
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Here's an answer for this jerk. Take whatever you want to take. I could care less.	Blade410 Age: 34 Reputation: +1315
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ok my apologies for the response i admit it was out of line. i was a little frustrated because i was not really getting an answer but i should not have reacted that way. sorry basefrenzy i know you were just trying to help. i just realized alot of the reason you guys were treating the matter the way you were was because i put i was just finishing up and did not specify that my cycle is actually over in two weeks. i have ordered nolvadex with some rush delivery that is a maximum of 8 days shipping so i have solved that problem. i am going to stack nolva with DAA and later an anti cortisol. again i apologize for insulting those trying to help me and for my arrogant response. wont happen again guys	mateoman Age: 19 Reputation: -1
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pjtherriat Age: 18

Is this product going to help me slim down but keep my strength gains? I recently recieved this product as a sample from a GNC, what I want to know is if this product is worth any of its possible risks and will it not affect me in continuing to gain strength. Currently I play rugby for Texas state university and I am trying to keep my weight in check before the season starts this fall, but I do not want my strength affected in anyway other than increasing.

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Perhaps. You are looking to Recomp and increase strength while losing bodyfat which is hard to do. It involves the weight lifting protocol of a bulk. The macros of a bulk, and the cardio of a cut. This product is in and of itself the least impacting on your goals compared to your diet and weightlifting/cardio routines.	FlashSunday Age: 23 Reputation: +2069
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It all depends on your diet. If it's way too little below your maintenance calories, and you add in a thermogenic, you will definitely loose strength. If you want to add in a thermo and not loose strength, i suggest take a close look into your calorie consumption and add it in slowly. It's a long process and it'll probably take about 2 weeks to determine that, but hey, it will all be worth it in the end. Hope this helps, good luck	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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Thank you FlashSunday and baseFrenzyy i will take both viewpoints into account	pjtherriat Age: 18 Reputation: 0
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hamocore Age: 24	how do i take each pack per day? hello everyone, i am a new member to sr and also my first time to take stak. ive read all the questions and googled anything that i can find out about stak, but non of it says anything of whether i should take all of the pills in one drinking or i should spread each pill throughout the day. please help me out. thanks.
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Take all the pills in one sitting. I love animal stak. Used it last year when I'm not even 21 haha. It is effective even though i'm at such a young age. Definitely something i would recommend.	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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Take them all at once 30 minutes before workout on lifting days and first thing in the morning on off days	Isplisgardt Age: 20 Reputation: +28
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The biggest effect, which is the most noticeable is i would start sweating very easily in the gym. I would sweat right after i did my warm up. Which is a good thing if your goal is to loose weight. Remember to follow the directions which is to take it half an hour before working out or take it first thing in the morning on your rest day. Let us know how did it go for you alright. Good luck!	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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Welcome to SR. Take them all at once. 45 min before workout. Take them in the AM on off days.	Reinger Age: 32 Reputation: +825
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Welcome to SR hamocore. I like to take all the pills at one time about 30-45 mintues before I workout. Good luck	kris65 Age: 23 Reputation: +2021
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For the forth time... Try taking this 30-45 minutes before a workout and with a breakfast on off days. Good luck.	RaleighReps Age: 32 Reputation: +14
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Thank you guys. Will let you know the effects after my first cycle. Cheers!	hamocore Age: 24 Reputation: 0
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raykhor Age: 22	Beast Super Test or Universal Animal Test for best mass gains in hardgainers?
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i would either use animal stak or d-pol . D-pol by itself is great and it has nitrates in it so you get a redic pump.	Mooselini Age: 22 Reputation: +547
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tribulus has been proven over and over again to be NOT effective in aiding in muscle building. If you want to use a test booster, it will be best if you use something that is tried and work for so many people. A good example will be DAA. Primaforce DAA and Dpol are good examples of a test booster that you would definitely want to try out. Primaforce DAA is a little cheaper so you can try that out first to see whether you like it. If you do, then go ahead and get Dpol. Good luck.	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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DAA with animal stak actually showed good lean gains... I would suggest it to anyone who I looking into a T-booster.. 6g DAA 1 packet of Animal stack	Tsoiseth34 Age: 24 Reputation: +201
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I would stack DAA and Animal stack like what Tsoiseth said or you could stack a DAA product like Dpol or Primaforce DAA with an AI like Licogenix, Erase, or Triazole.	kris65 Age: 23 Reputation: +2021
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dorsey67 Age: 24	Should I take this before hiit? Should I take this before cardio to help preserve muscle mass? Or would something like purple wrath or modern bcaa be better?
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BCAA's have a host of benefits, but you're not going to lose muscle mass from doing cardio. Personally I think there are better products than this. Wraath is packed with other ingredient goodies and would be my first choice. If you want just a straight BCAA supplement, Xtend and MBCAA are both good choices.	Cray Age: 28 Reputation: +1665
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I like to take bcaas when I lift and during cardio. My bro science is since I'm not eating right away the bcaa's are feeding my muscles and holding them over until I can get some food after cardio. Both purple wraath and modern bcaa are good choices. I take a dose of whatever and then mix in 15 grams unflavored bcaas. It doesn't change the taste and more than doubles your bcaa intake. Bcaa-Lynn is good in theory, but I have a hard time believing that those doses would be more effective than the way I do things.	FlashSunday Age: 23 Reputation: +2069
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I think that are 3 times in a day that are the most suitable time to take BCAA. And u don't need to take it all 3 times. Just choose one from below that is the most suitable for you. 1. Right when u wake up. It can gives u energy to go through the day. 2. Before or after you work out. This is when your body needs it the most. Need it to recover. 3. Before bed. Your body needs its rest during sleeping. And this is definitely help you recover. It's basically up to u. Everyone will have a different answer. You just have to find wwhat suites u the best and that you are moat comfortable with. Hope this helps. Good luck!	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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line6reed Age: 25	Has anyone tried a half scoop pre and a half scoop post for this. Ive always responded well taking krealkaylyn pre and post. I hope this is better than kre alk.
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I have tried that and liked it. I found that I liked it best if I did about 1/2 a scoop before and 3/4 of a scoop after. I know they say the body can only absorb so much but I find it hard to believe there is a magic number for everyone. I weigh over 250# and I'm not a fatty. My body absorb that much just fine and I did not notice any difference in bathroom trips. I did notice that it seemed to help me fill my muscles better. Try it out for yourself and see what you think. Hope it works well for you too!	Meuth Age: 35 Reputation: +1522
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Yeah people have done this. Also depending on your post workout you can just take this pre workout. but everyone is different in the way they use Green mag	kingmeat Age: 21 Reputation: +1290
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What I did when I was taking this product was about half pre and then sip on it throughout my gym session. Best probably taken post but I never had any issues taking it the way I did, still effective as ever.	Lifeobunting Age: 20 Reputation: +147
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Green Mag is my go-to creatine, and I just can't imagine going without the endurance boost it imparts by taking it pre-workout. But logically speaking, splitting the dose like that should get the best of both worlds. Try it, report back.	ironajax Age: 23 Reputation: +66
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Thanks fellas its just how ive always taking creatine so im excited hope i respond to green mag.	line6reed Age: 25 Reputation: +9
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Yes this is my favorite creatine product yet. It it cheap and effective. You can literally notice the difference in your work out. Besides green mag, I've tried ON creatine mono, con-cret, kre alkalyn and more. This is by far my favorite yet. It will be yours too. I've intro this product to some of my friends and they all liked it. Good luck.	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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Yeah man only other creatine i tried other than kre alk is creature by beast and it was garbage so i just hope this will do what everyone says it does.	line6reed Age: 25 Reputation: +9
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rickwarrior Age: NA

is it safe to use....... just got off oep cyccle on 15th april. I have just finished my fatburner cycle on 15th may. I was taking oxy elite pro from 1st may N before that finished d4 thermal shock on 30th April I started it on 1st April . I would like to know.com I start taking creatine or assault, if yes then from which date do specify it pls.  what should be more good N also not expensive and give me greater result . Thanks in advance . Do tell me that is it safe or not.

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Let me be the first to tell u this. Creatine will be one of the safest supplement u can include into your stack. It is great to increase endurance and energy in the gym. You don't need a specify date to start this. You can start it right now if you want. Glad that u choose ON creatine. oN is one of the most credible company out there. It's one of the best creatine next to green mag and con-cret	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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I am thinking of starting oep from 16 June	rickwarrior Age: NA Reputation: -1
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Yes creatine is safe and ON uses Creapure, which many people, myself included recommend.	lava135 Age: 46 Reputation: +104
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It is safe to use like baseFrenzyy said. The only thing you may not like is the water weight gain. Since you took OEP Im sure you realize that part of the weight you lost was water weight. Creatine, especially creatine mono, causes you to hold on to a bit more water. It will give your arms a fuller, wetter look and if you have cuts in the muscle they might disappear. That being said, creatine is good stuff and you shouldn't be afraid to start it, just realize that its going to take you in the opposite direction in some respects.	FlashSunday Age: 23 Reputation: +2069
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Waurie93 Age: 19	is this safe to stack with.... GNC mega ignite, I could just but afford the lean xtreme so I'm not oep-ingn it so to speak...will this combo be safe ? I know lean is stimulant free but...
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Lean xtreme usually stacks well with most fat burners. With strong ones like OEP to weaker ones, so it should be ok to stack with this. Remember tho these will only burn a huge hole in your pocket if you're not dieting and exercising right.	CamSTL Age: 24 Reputation: +622
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yeah you should be fine with that stack. LX even works well on its own but like cam said just make sure your diet and exercise are on point and you'll get there.	kingmeat Age: 21 Reputation: +1290
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^^also GNC Meta Ignite has 400mg of caffeine so either split the dose up or try something with less caffeine	Mooselini Age: 22 Reputation: +547
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how about do cardio instead of swallowing pills fat burners are not magic pills you still need to do cardio. by how you look you should be taking a weight gainer theres nothing sexy about a skeleton its unhealthy	line6reed Age: 25 Reputation: +9
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It will be fine stacking both of them. Lean xtreme and OEP stack is one of the most popular fat burning stack currently. You will see result in no time. ONLY IF you have your diet and workout routine down. If not, you will look exactly the same with when you just open the bottle.	baseFrenzyy Age: 21 Reputation: +69
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I guess ill be the one to Fart in the room. Do you exercise and have a good solid diet down? Cuz the best advice you'll get is STOP WASTING YOUR MONEY AND TIME ON FAT BURNERS/BS DIET PILLS oh and also DIET AND EXERCISE you're assuming these pills will do anything fir you first off. Second off you're assuming they'll do more than make you lose water weight. Thirdly if your fat, then eat a calorie deficient diet and do cardio. Its not that hard. There's no cheating at it its not expensive and it doesn't come in a bottle from gnc	slysteps Age: 21 Reputation: +244
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