Good product. I took it alone with no pre or post-workout products stacked, and didnt even take protein, and I got alot of positive results. I took it during baseball because during baseball I can only lift once or twice a week, so I wanted something to keep me from losing too much strength during the season. I actually gained strength even though I was only lifting once a week, gained a little bit of size, and had great recovery
time. I have a feeling that if stacked with other products, and used while lifting 4 or 5 days a week, Primaldrol would give huge noticeable benefits. Only con was the price, it is definately one of the more expensive products out there.