I ran the women's ripped vpak for 60 days and it resulted in nothing but trouble. The lethargy that resulted was unparalleled. The thermo is noneffective and don't get me started on the mark-up. GNC's vitamins are wildly overpriced. They produce them at their own facility at a cost of approximately $3 per box/30 day supply and sell them for $60. It's criminal. Multi's are fine for people who's diet is hugely caloric or phytosterol deficient or if they simply don't eat a proper diet, otherwise you really should be tailoring your intake to your personal needs. But then again, supplements are so personal that it's hard to make any sweeping generalizations. What works for one individual, will not necessarily work for the next. This vpak, however....well, I wouldn't suggest it to my worst enemy (or biggest competition).