This stuff is the real deal. I took to bottles before my senior year of college football. When I started i weight about 192 lbs and probably benched around 295. After the two bottle cycle, i was weighing 205, ripped, and benching 340. Felt like a beast. The best part was that i played an entire football season without lifting at all, and still maintained most of the strength and size i put on. There is some added aggression that comes with it. And I have also heard other complain about a lowered sex drive. But as far as solid results in strength and size goes, this stuff is amazing. I am one example, and I have countless friends who took the stuff too, and all had the same, if not better results.