April 16, 2013
Well here we go once again – another detailed review of a PH cycle. True to form, I try to get into a lot of granular detail to help those peeps out who wants the nitty gritty… Enjoy!
I’ve been lifting for 20 years now – started when I was 13 and I’m almost 34. Didn’t touch my first PH or AAS product until I was 28 after 15 years of hard work & natural training. I bring up this point for any younger guys reading this (anyone under 25!) – I DO NOT advocate PH or AAS use to anyone under 25, irrespective of how long you’ve been training. I just think it’s pointless as your body has so much capacity for growth on its own with proper diet & nutrition. Just my own opinion…
This was my 4th PH cycle: first P-Mag first, then P-Stanz + E-Stane + Stano, then E-stane + Trenadrol, and now the big daddy of the list… SUPERDROL! I actually have a bottle of liquid Super-DMZ sitting in my fridge ready to use, but seeing as I had a bottle of perfectly good M-drol sitting in my treasure chest, I thought it WISE to try Superdrol on its own to see how I reacted to it, before trying Super-DMZ (which is Superdrol + DMZ stacked together).
I ran my last cycle of E-stane + Trenadrol in Sept-Oct of 2012 as a recomp, followed by a Clen run to get ready for summer (in Australia). With summer at an end here, I wanted to run a lean bulk and with quite a few PHs on hand, I figured I’d give M-drol a run. After much reading & prep, I was ready for it.
I’ve been running Growth Hormone Peptides for the last 3 months as well – GHRP-2 and Mod GRF, dosed at 100mg each, 2x daily. I’ve been running this primarily for anti-aging purposes, secondarily for joint & injury repair, thirdly for fat loss (or maintenance, rather), and fourthly for any carry-over anabolic effect it might have on muscle mass (which it did slightly in those 3 months but nothing huge).
Moving into this cycle, I upped my GH Peptide dosing to 3x daily, adding a shot immediate post workout (or sometimes after my ‘big’ muscle group workout, before moving to smaller accessory). You need to wait 30 minutes after your shot before protein ingestion and an hour for carb & fat ingestion. Hence by taking my shot right after my workout, I’d wait 30 mins then slam my Hydrolyzed protein shake at home).
Diet & Training
My regular ‘summer’ routine (the last 6 months) consisted of morning & evening cardio, and a 2-hour weight session around noon. I probably didn’t need to do so much cardio, however I DID drink all summer long every weekend, so the cardio kept me lean & fit, plain & simple. Food & diet have otherwise always been spot on. I was training up to 5 hours a day most days on this cycle…
For this cycle, OBVIOUSLY I dropped out the alcohol, and dropped out one of the cardio sessions entirely. The morning cardio session I still did, but not as intense. With each progressive week, I eased back the intensity of the cardio even more, so by week 3-5 I was really only walking at a moderate pace at a very shallow incline. I’m OCD with my cardio and actually love doing it (clears my mind) so I kept it in my regime, but very light so as not to hinder my gains. Only change to my diet was to increase my intake of carbs by adding 1 cup of steamed broccoli to 2 of my post workout meals in the afternoon. Also the fruit I added into my blender shakes. Other carb sources included ¾ cup of oats for breakfast after cardio, and beans (red kidney, chic peas & lentils in my chilli I ate 2 meals a day). I wasn’t going to reinvent the wheel on this cycle and I only wanted to LEAN bulk, not blow up. By keeping my diet relatively unchanged I think I also got a better gauge on how much the M-drol was actually working.
I still allowed myself 1 cheat meal a week. Sometimes cookies & ice cream, other times a pizza, or whatever I was craving. This was no different to the last 6 months when I keeping very lean & fit. I’d also have take-away Thai food once a week; other than the sodium level in it, not an issue.
Also cut out ALL stimulants while on cycle. Goodbye coffee, stimulants, PWOs, boosters, aids, EVERYTHING! For those wondering, this is to keep your heard rate & blood pressure down, as the PH will increase both. Plus you want that extra KICK when you head into your PCT to help smash the workouts and keep your gains, when you all your stims back into your diet.
Also became a blender junkie! Hadn’t used mine in AGES – SOOOOO glad I did. I looked forward to every shake with eager anticipation… they were seriously like dessert a couple times a day.
For those looking for a FKN delicious shake try:
-1 cup almond milk (unsweetened)
-1 cup egg whites
-1 cup frozen mixed berries (raspberries, strawberries, blueberries)
-Protein powder of choice – Hydrolyzed post workout, isolate + concentrate daytime, casein night time (Vanilla flavour for the protein)
-2 scoops Vitargo S2 (if post workout shake OR if you want to add 60g extra carbs)
-option to add ice to make it thicker if needed
Training & Recovery
Trained every day, period.
Chest, Delts, Arms, Deadlifts, Calves & Abs were all trained 2x weekly.
For Chest & Delts I’d have one ‘heavy compound’ workout and one lighter ‘intensity & volume’ (shorter rest intervals between sets, but slightly less weight) workout. Arms were annihilated twice a week straight out. For Biceps, one workout mainly focused on the Biceps themselves and finished with Brachialis, while the second workout mainly focused on the Brachialis and finished with Biceps movements.
Saturday was my only ‘day off’ where I only trained Abs & Calves, and did cardio. So technically I trained every day, but the Saturday workouts are easy (to me) and don’t require much mental focus. Sunday through Friday were all brutal workouts… Several days I’d workout twice a day – heavy compound movement around noon, then back again around 5 oclock to workout the smaller muscle group that day.
I know what you’re thinking – OVER-TRAINING!!! I got it…
I’m in a bit special of a situation where I work from home, make my own schedule and really don’t have to work much, if at all. I was also getting 10 hours sleep most nights, and if I had to settle for 7-8 hours a night, I’d take a 1-2 hour nap those afternoons after my big weight session before getting up again, eating, and heading back to the gym. Kind of living the life of a paid bodybuilder – the only real focus I had each day was the gym… or at least for the ‘hard work’ – still had tons of stuff going on otherwise on a personal level. Hence, with 10ish hours sleep a night and great nutrition, I can wager to say one can get away with training every day while on a strong PH.
I could say that there was some slight strength increase, but in my case it wasn’t noticed much. After 20 years of lifting I know that my joints & tendons are the limiting factor in a lot of my lifts. Furthermore, even though I can lift heavier on most exercise I’m focusing on stimulating the muscle for growth, not trying to feed the ego. So my form is spot on perfect, I don’t cheat at all, and I use a slow(ish) and controlled contraction for pretty much all my lifts for all muscles. So although there ‘could’ have been some massive strength gains from the M-drol I wasn’t pushing much past my normal lifting weight. I just increased the hell out of the volume. 20+ sets for big muscle groups and 12-15 sets for smaller ones. Muscles like Calves & Abs I don’t even count – I just spend 30-40 minutes annihilating each with barely any rest between sets and call it a day.
AI Cycle Assist + Liver Armor + Grape Seed extract (loaded 2 weeks prior & maintained until end of PCT)
Hydrolyzed Isolate (post gym), Whey Isolate + Whey Concentrate (mid-day shakes), Casein (before bed)
Vitargo S2 – 1-2 scoops pre-workout, and 2 scoops post workout with hydrolyzed isolate shake
Orange Triad – Multi 2x daily
Vit C, Vit E, Cal-Mag, CLA
BCAA 8:1:1 + Leucine powder (taken throughout the day)
L-Carnatine, L-Tyrosine – energy & neurotransmitter aid
Glocosamine, MSM – joint relief
Taurine – for back pumps
M-Drol: (taken with 5g Fish Oil and 1g Krill Oil)
W2: 2x 10mg/day
W3: 2x 10mg/day
W4: 3x 10mg/day
W5: 3x 10mg/day (3 days)
**Note: As you’ll read in the details below, I had virtually NO sides, hence I increased my dose to 30mg in the 4th week to gauge how it went. Still had no sides, so stayed on the cycle another 5 days. In the 5th week had any sides started to show up I would have stopped the cycle there & then and started my PCT
3x GHRP-2 (100mg) + Mod GRF 1-29 (100mg)
Dose 1: First thing upon wake-up before cardio on empty stomach
Dose 2: Immediately following workout (no food in system for past 60 mins, and wait 30 mins before post workout shake)
Dose 3: Before bed on empty stomach
PCT (regular PCT run for 4 weeks; Natty T boosters & AI run for 8 weeks)
*All ‘Regular Supps’ listed above
*Same Fish Oil + Krill Oil dosing taken 3x daily
*Same Peptide dosing schedule (3x daily) for 4 weeks, then dropped to 2x daily thereafter
SERM: Tamoxifen Citrate: 40/20/20/10
Isa-Test GF + D-Pol (taken pre workout) – both run for 8 weeks
PES Erase – Aromatase Inhibitor (started week 2 PCT and run for 6 weeks)
Phosphatidylserine for Cortisol control – 3x daily
C-bol + Creapure powder + PWO mix (from bulk mix): AAKG + Beta Alanine + Citruline Malate + 200mg caffeine
Mucuna Pruriens + Tongkat Ali + GABA Powder (taken before bed)
Honestly, hardly any!!!
By Week 4 when I upped the dose to 30mg/day, the lethargy really set in. After a few days I adjusted but for the first 3-4 days it was pretty brutal. Also don’t take any pills after 6-7pm if you want to be asleep by midnight. Made the mistake twice taking a dose around 9pm… and couldn’t fall asleep until 2am. Didn’t notice any mood swings or ‘roid rage’ – felt as calm as I normally am… actually I was probably even more calm than normal on account of lethargy.
Unlike my E-stane + Trenadrol cycle, no hair loss (beyond what hair naturally falls out in the course of a day). Definitely got some acne – a couple random small pimples on my face, and some on my back but thankfully not those huge red welts, just white heads, usually around where my scapula would rub against the bench while lifting. Also some very slight acne on my delts and chest. Still didn’t like it though as I’m down on the beach most days…
Sex drive was soaring for the first 2 weeks, then tapered off slight in week 3-5. Actually my libido seemed to drop off a bit in week 3 (although still there), then came back again stronger in week 4 & onwards. In all I’d say a ‘slight drop’ in libido but nothing major – had no problems having sex or maintaining an erection – all good on that front (unlike the E-stane + Trenadrol cycle which dropped my libido quite a bit from weeks 4-6).
Never had any back pain from pumps. Granted I took taurine most days, but even on rare days where I might forget to take it, never felt anything.
Starting weight: 87.5Kg (192.5 lbs)
Finishing weight: 92.5kg (203lbs)
Call it 11lbs of new muscle, while visibly leaner, but I wasn't even trying to cut body fat... I was aiming for a lean bulk.
All in all, I DEFINITELY put on some serious size!
I’m bigger, harder, more defined & with better separation than before. Also slightly leaner than before, which considering I was doing less cardio and eating more food, is awesome!
I’m still wearing 32” waist pants, yet now fully stretching my XL t-shirts. Everyone clearly knows something’s up which I think is hilarious. Buddies are jaw-dropped at the size I put on in a month, as I wasn’t a small guys before. Thankfully I don’t work in an office anymore where I need to answer to co-workers about it.
Not sure if this a good or bad effect but I can’t touch my back anymore! LOL
Meaning, before I could still rotate my arms enough to get coconut oil on most of my back except for maybe the very middle part (remember, I live on the beach – I’m down there most days!).
By Week 3 of my cycle I can barely touch my back! I can get the tops of my traps and the very sides of my lats, and lower back. Seriously lost the ability to touch 70% of my back (relative to before).
Also feel that my shoulders have lost a huge amount of ROM despite all my stretching, namely being able to rotate around to touch my back. Maybe the delts grew that much, or the ligaments were just that tight (although never any pain) – dunno.
One of my chest workouts in Week 4 was crazy – I had my ‘high volume + intensity’ workout (ie: not my heavy compound chest day) – got home, had a shake, had a shower and when I got out I noticed a HUGE red stretch mark down the left side of my chest along the outer pec line. AWESOME! I’ve NEVER had that before… I was very pleased.
What can I say… all in all this product is AMAZING!
Giving this product '10s' across the board might seem extreme, but I stand my ground. The ridiculous gains I got, virtually no sides, no complications, overall value... beats every other PH I've tried to date hands down. To mention again, adding 10+ lbs to my frame after 20 years of lifting, while also losing bodyfat was ridiculous... and all in just over 4 weeks.
I haven’t gotten my blood work done yet so I can’t comment on any of those values, but I feel amazing! For anyone who already has 3+ PH cycles under their belts with minimal or no sides, Superdrol could be your next step. I certainly would NEVER recommend this product to a novice PH user or anyone under 25. But for those the experienced veterans out there… it’s ‘WOW’ in a bottle.
For whatever I paid for this… maybe $35, it baffles the mind how ‘supplements’ can be twice that price and do nothing yet a tiny little M-drol bottle can pack that much punch. For VALUE you simply can’t do better. But for your own safety, health and longevity, DO YOUR RESEARCH AND PLAN YOUR CYCLE PROPERLY! Don’t skimp out or cut corners. Hands down the best cycle I’ve run to date – VERY impressed with M-drol (aka: Superdrol) – couldn’t have asked for more realistically, especially given that I was still doing cardio daily, didn’t change my diet much and was only after a lean bulk.
Now I’m VERY much looking forward to trying out my Super-DMZ in 6 months… hehehe.
Lemme know if you have any questions – I’ll help how/where I can…
- Good Value
- Builds Muscle
- Great Pumps
- Oily Skin
- Back Acne