Having been training around 8 years (the last 3 cleanly)and tried and tested many OTC supplements also having completed many courses of different illegal compounds both for cutting, bulking etc i came to a point where i hit a wall training naturally, I have always used a pre workout, BCAA's kept protein intake up around 1.5g per lb body weight, good diet etc but felt it was time to have a little assistance in the way of a prohormone. I decided on EPI as a starting point, minimal sides, clean dry gains and reletively cheap. coming to the end of a 4 week cycle of 30/30/40/50 i must say this stuff is legit. gained around 5kg of lean mass, bf% down and strength sky rocketed!Muscles are full everyday all day, appetite is slightly up,all in all very pleased and would recomment highy. Worth taking some Taurine, glucosamine and essential oils to keep dry joints at bay but other than that its an easy cycle. for PCT nothing major,4 weeks Nolva with Testforce 2 to get natty test back up and jobs a gooden!!!